#BYOTchat for 03/08/2012

Chat reads from top to bottom

MyTakeOnIt Loving how many ppl are excited for our weekly #BYOTchat. @SteveHayes_RB60 @TimeToKnow @hugghinss: We should be proud. Steve: Thank you!
TimeToKnow REMINDER: #BYOTchat in 10 minutes! Project-based inquiry and #BYOT.  Be there!
TimeToKnow RT @MyTakeOnIt: Loving how many ppl are excited for our weekly #BYOTchat. @SteveHayes_RB60 @TimeToKnow @hugghinss: We should be proud. Steve: Thank you!
micwalker RT @TimeToKnow: REMINDER: #BYOTchat in 10 minutes! Project-based inquiry and #BYOT.  Be there!
wkingbg #kyste2012 folks be sure to check out #BYOTchat tonight at 9:00pm EST  Topic: Project-Based Inquiry & BYOT/BYOD
s_bearden Post I wrote about my school! | BYOD Teachers Talk Classroom Use — THE Journal http://t.co/s7ZRLs1e #BYOTchat #edtech #mlearning #isedchat
MyTakeOnIt Hi Steve, hi everyone. Good to see you again at #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Welcome to #BYOTchat!  Tonight “Project-Based Inquiry & BYOT/BYOD” #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt RT @s_bearden: Post I wrote about my school! | BYOD Teachers Talk Classroom Use — THE Journal http://t.co/s7ZRLs1e #BYOTchat #edtech #mlearning #isedchat
SteveHayes_RB60 James DiGioia  @TimeToKnow Wrote a great post about tonight’s topic at http://t.co/wDb50UYI http://t.co/wGDA7C0O #byotchat
TimeToKnow RT @s_bearden: Post I wrote about my school! | BYOD Teachers Talk Classroom Use — THE Journal http://t.co/s7ZRLs1e #BYOTchat #edtech #mlearning #isedchat
TimeToKnow Hello all! Good to be back again #BYOTchat
hugghinss Hello Steve and everyone. I am quickly checking in for #BYOTchat on my way to Austin.
SteveHayes_RB60 I’m excited to learn more about Project-Based Inquiry. #byotchat
TimeToKnow Basically, I was wondering if we thought giving students the freedom to explore on their own would would make #BYOT more effective #BYOTchat
wkingbg Greetings from the #kyste2012 conference in Louisville, KY.  —> #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 It’s definitely a change from the factory type classrooms that many of us were taught in and is still the primary style. #byotchat
TimeToKnow Then, if we do think that’s the case, how do we transition to that? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt …Just as inquiry/problem-based learning puts the learning more in the hands of the students. #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt I want students (& teachers) to be empowered to choose the best tools for their needs, but those devices need to be available… #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @wkingbg Thanks for joining us and for promoting byotchat! #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Dr. William Rankin from ACU in Abilene, Texas @rankinw was at #ice12 & talked ab’t some amazing project-based learning inhis class #byotchat
wkingbg Kids need that time 2 explore, especially when it comes 2 educational projects & sites.  Most students haven’t spent time on those #byotchat
nathan_stevens Waiting for rest of probe ware to come to set up station with mobile devices #BYOTchat
s_bearden @SteveHayes_RB60 sorry to miss #BYOTchat tonight! Am in rehearsal until 10.
trescolumnae @TimeToKnow I think so – but it’s also important to change paradigm of school. For many sts & tchrs, still “imparting knwldge” #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @TimeToKnow: @stevehayes_rb60 @rankinw Dr. Rankin, care to join us? We could really use your insight! #byotchat
wkingbg @stevehayes_rb60 Had over 150 in our BYOD session today!  It was great hearing what others schools are planning/doing.  #byotchat
nathan_stevens Each center will have a probe activity that they can connect with their devices #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @trescolumnae Is it difficult, as a teacher, to rework your classroom around project-based inquriy? Or do we need systemic change? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 give the students the problem first, and they develop the skill while attempting to solve it  @timetoknow #byotchat
trescolumnae @TimeToKnow Yes, it’s difficult – possible, depending on school culture. Systemic change needed, but can “bubble up” from clsrms #BYOTchat
hugghinss Reflection & feedback from students is another important in PBL & BYOT classes. Students must have a voice. #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens My  @sifteo cubes came in today. Looking for to learning how to effe timely us them #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa What parameters or guidelines need to be set so students are successful? #byotchat without any there would be frustration
wkingbg a different app per station… RT @nathan_stevens: Each center will have a probe activity that they can connect with their devices #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 @timetoknow I am more of a fan of prob SEEKING: Don’t give them the prob—let them FIND the prob AND solve it! #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @wkingbg same app when probes are involve, but looking at how to use similar apps in mult. Content areas #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @hugghinss do you see the student reflection an feedback as part of the grade or part of the learning? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 At a recent parent meeting (250+), a lot of parents wanted changes in the way their children were taught – away from factory style #byotchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 Ok – but if we need them to learn something specific, how do we push them to seek “our problem”? #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @stevehayes_rb60 Was PBL mentioned/discussed? What did they say? #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt how do you make sure that the sts find a problem in the range of the learning goal? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 With PBL, students are not only learning content, they are learning skills, collaboration, producing,.. #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt …What changes that we all of a sudden need to start PROVIDING the problems? #BYOTchat @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60 For the 1st 5 years of life kids learn SO MANY skills without us providing them with problems… #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60 (Sounds like I’m talking about a systemic change, aren’t I?) #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 my son’s school is moving to steam, where the arts and tech are infused into every subject #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 parents did not mention PBL by name, but they do want Ss more in their learning and w/ tech #byotchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 True, but at what point do we need to give them guidance? Or can they do that till they graduate? :) #BYOTchat
wkingbg RT @stevehayes_rb60: With PBL,students are not only learning content,they are learning skills,collaboration,producing,  #byotchat #kyste2012
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60 After graduation we don’t provide probs, do we? They are again expected to problem SEEK. #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt what changes? Govt mandated curriculum/tests that have consequences if sts aren’t prepared #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 AWESOME! RT @nathan_stevens:my sons school is moving to steam, where the arts and tech are infused into every subject #byotchat
nathan_stevens @wkingbg the nice part about sifted cubes is the student controls everything #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Give them the problem, give them material to read, ask to collaborate and produce proof they know it – always guide them #byotchat
SrtaLisa If students can learn without guidance, are we challenging them to reach their full potential? #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 The amount of guidance depends on the scope of the project and the age of the child.   #byotchat
wkingbg @mytakeonit Good point, of course I guess it depends on their field of study. #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt @SrtaLisa I get stuck when it comes to the tests. Maybe there are better ways to asses? @innovativeedu has strong opinion abt this #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 Right – but how much of that problem seeking is possible because of hard skills they learned first? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow You need to model and rehearse problem seeking—there is a foundation to be established #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow I hear you! And I don’t intend to be argumentative, either. I’m enjoying the give-and-take :) #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt do you see problem seeking as possible in all subjects? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @MyTakeOnIt: @TimeToKnow You need to model and rehearse problem seeking—there is a foundation to be established #byotchat
TimeToKnow @stevehayes_rb60 Sounds like college! #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes – and not necessarily does older = less guidance. My poor HS seniors need much MORE structure for some reason #byotchat
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Thinking more about this issue: my seniors need more guidance b/c they’ve had more indoctrination into “trad” sch #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt @SrtaLisa If we focused more on integrated studies rather than discrete subjects, CERTAINLY prob seeking could be applied to all #BYOTchat
micwalker Just had our first middle schooler complete BYOD training virtually. http://t.co/4cjW7wry #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @SrtaLisa – I think it is possible  Will doing a great deal with my online music theory class next school year. #byotchat
wkingbg I would like to see more BYOD fully implemented by 5th grade so by the time they reach HS they r free from that “indoctrination” #byotchat
SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt I teach a foreign language, so I struggle to see setting my students free w/out guidelines  #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 My grandmother taught in a one-room school with students of all ages – I bet she used PBL and didn’t know it #byotchat
mguhlin RT @micwalker: Just had our first middle schooler complete BYOD training virtually. http://t.co/4cjW7wry #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 example from music class, a doc cam over the keyboard help students see exactly how to play #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa that would be like sending them abroad without help, relying on 1 yr of Spanish to survive, some would, others would disappear #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 GREAT! RT @micwalker: Just had our first middle schooler complete BYOD training virtually. http://t.co/mXx2vqLj #byotchat
micwalker @SteveHayes_RB60 Thanks. PBL was a big part of the cohort training we ran last year. Some of those teachers are  harnessing BYOD #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @SrtaLisa If our goal is learning, a classroom is a TERRIBLE place to learn a language! #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @SrtaLisa Really? But that’s how we acquire language best! Send students to France—there’s nothing better than full emersion! #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt …. I struggle to see setting my students free w/out guidelines – Doesn’t the prob create guidlines? #byotchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit Right – I like the idea of PBL; just wondering if all skills can be learned that way. #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @srtalisa @MyTakeOnIt Immersion is an incredible language learning tool. If you just corral them into target language content… #BYOTchat
hugghinss @trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 I have Sts who prefer are so used to traditional learning they are afraid of change #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow I’d argue that it’s only WITH PBL/Prob seeking that ALL of the skills CAN be learned! #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @nathan_stevens: @SteveHayes_RB60 example from music class, a doc cam over the keyboard help students see exactly how to play #byotchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 @srtalisa give students the answer and tell them to figure out how to get there #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @hugghinss I see that to, especially with graded assignments. they are willing to play when there is no risk #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 I think BYOT / BYOD is needed with today’s Ss to be successful w/ PBL #byotchat
nathan_stevens @wkingbg my son’s principal put together a video, I will find the link #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Actually I think BYOT / BYOD trumps 1:1 big time in PBL, because they are using the tech tools they have w/ them #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 What if they just don’t reliably have any tech with them? I’m struggling with this one right now #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @SrtaLisa “How much is this assignment worth?”  “What do I need to get an A” #byotchat
hugghinss @SrtaLisa Most definitely part o the learning & relationship building between students & me-learning best practices together. #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 I don’t mind the question of how many points it is, but what do I need to do to get an A? drives me crazy #BYOTchat
TheresaShafer Just dropping by to share our #PBLChat archives, byot, 1:1, are a big part of schools using PBL. http://t.co/j8pVabXN #byotchat
SrtaLisa @hugghinss  I also think struggling together builds the relationship – with technology, no one is always going to have the answers #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit Interesting – I’d love to hear a longer (>140 character :) ) explanation of that. #BYOTchat http://t.co/GgfqFoWo blog post?
hugghinss @SrtaLisa Absolutely. I just keep reinforcing that not adapting or opening up to 21C skills is a risk to future success #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow Yeah, it’s hard to have this conversation in <140 characters. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @MyTakeOnIt: What if they just dont have any tech – collaboration is one solution  #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @TheresaShafer Thank you! #byotchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 @mytakeonit all tech start with a writing tool and paper, start there #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @nathan_stevens: @SteveHayes_RB60 @mytakeonit all tech start with a writing tool and paper, start there #byotchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 that is why when we start a tech workshop, I ask Teach. to bring in an activity that they like then we add apps #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 A teacher at #ice12  told his JH students to produce at artifact of what they have learned – they did amazing #byotchat
TimeToKnow @nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 That’s a great idea. Love it. #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @timetoknow @stevehayes_rb60 Sorry it breeds … #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @TimeToKnow @stevehayes_rb60 I breeds comfort with change #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 BYOT /  BYOD allows Ss to take their discovery in learning out of the classroom.   #byotchat
TheresaShafer @SteveHayes_RB60 Sure:) Was Tech Dir at 1:1 HS moving to BYOT, kids use cell phones too & using all PBL.  #byotchat
hugghinss @SrtaLisa Agreed. Reflection again is key. I want them to help me improve as I help them as well = a constant learninin cycle #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 i love the idea to have students produce something to show what they learned. very open, but not intimidating #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @hugghinss @SrtaLisa “a constant learninin cycle” – Great! #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Do teachers fear that PBL will not prepare Ss adequately for standardized tests? #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 What an interesting question. Do we fear standardized tests don’t prepare Ss for solving probs after school? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @SrtaLisa they produces videos, poetry, short stories, – some with a lot of tech – and some with none #byotchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 @srtalisa the key word is produce #BYOTchat
SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60  I can see students gaining confidence with tech by seeing peer examples #BYOTchat and seeking advice from friends
SteveHayes_RB60 @MyTakeOnIt – Sad truth that the fear of standardized tests – keeps some schools from looking past the test #byotchat
TimeToKnow @stevehayes_rb60 I think so – the whole “standardized testing regime” makes change in the classroom difficult. #BYOTchat
jfluhmann RT @micwalker: Just had our first middle schooler complete BYOD training virtually. http://t.co/4cjW7wry #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @SrtaLisa @stevehayes_rb60 take the smartboard, one persons at the front, but other participate #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Katie Morrow Teach42morrow @katiemorrow has great resources http://t.co/9sR7yMZB  #byotchat
SrtaLisa RT @SteveHayes_RB60: Teach42morrow @katiemorrow has great resources http://t.co/Hl2zfH33  #byotchat -> looks great, bookmarked for later
SteveHayes_RB60 This has been a great chat – I’m so excited about sharing PBL with my colleagues #byotchat
TheresaShafer RT @SteveHayes_RB60: BYOT /  BYOD allows Ss to take their discovery in learning out of the classroom.   #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @TheresaShafer When is the pblchat?
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 @TheresaShafer I don’t see #PBLchat on @cybraryman1′s chats site! #BYOTChat
SteveHayes_RB60 Also check out Josh Stumpenhorst @stumpteacher for great ideas with students producing #byotchat
TheresaShafer @SteveHayes_RB60 Tues. 9pmEST next week we are talking ISTE Net-s and PBL! Might be a good fit for some here to give guidance #byotchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 I’d go so far as to say they don’t. The information I’ve used postgraduating has been self-discovered #BYOTchat
TheresaShafer RT @SteveHayes_RB60: This has been a great chat – Im so excited about sharing PBL with my colleagues #byotchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 @TheresaShafer @cybraryman1 I don’t believe it! That site is HUGE! #BYOTchat
hugghinss @SteveHayes_RB60 Thank you as always. Enjoyed sharing with & learning from all. Apologies for grammar/spelling- traveling tonight #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60 @TheresaShafer @cybraryman1 I know, right?! But I asked Google: http://t.co/mRdBF6Ag #BYOTchat #PBLChat
SteveHayes_RB60 @TheresaShafer I’ll try to make it! #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt Thank you everyone for another fun #BYOTchat. I hope my tweets didn’t come off as too argumentative! #BYOTchat
TheresaShafer @cybraryman is a BEAST! RT @TimeToKnow: @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 @cybraryman1 I dont believe it! That site is HUGE! #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt @TheresaShafer Does #PBLchat have a web site? Does it meet every Tuesday at 9 PM? cc @SteveHayes_RB60 @cybraryman1 #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Jeremy @MyTakeOnIt – keep us updated!  :) #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 James @timetoknow you “rocked” with a great topic tonight! #byotchat
TheresaShafer @SteveHayes_RB60 That would be great! We just started #PBLchat “officially” in Nov. I look so forward to it each week. #byotchat
hugghinss @SrtaLisa I enjoyed the discussion tonight. Thanks for your insight. I would love to extend the conversation & continue to share #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow Oh, no! I wasn’t implying that I thought that you were implying… oh, nevermind! Love chatting with you on #BYOTchat
Sirotiak02 Anyone have a #BYOT policy for their school district they can share? Thanks! #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @Sirotiak02 Check out @cybraryman1′s AUP page: http://t.co/t2bIxwAe #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Some do, and some fear that they’ll no longer be The Expert In The Classroom. Fear is root of much resistance. #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @Sirotiak02 Check with Tim Clark @BYOTnetwork – from Forsyth County (google them – they have great stuff) #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt Don’t forget: Archives of #BYOTchat will be available tomorrow morning on http://t.co/ksJGAzdn (thanks to @TimeToKnow)
MyTakeOnIt Ok, heading to bed so I can fight off the remains of this cold. Thank you & goodnight @SteveHayes_RB60, @TimeToKnow and every1 on #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow RT @MyTakeOnIt: Don’t forget: Archives of #BYOTchat will be available tomorrow morning on http://t.co/ksJGAzdn (thanks to @TimeToKnow)
TimeToKnow Thank you everyone for making this topic so interesting #BYOTchat TY @SteveHayes_RB60 @MyTakeOnIt @hugghinss for hosting!
hugghinss Thanks to @SteveHayes_RB60 @TimeToKnow @MyTakeOnIt for all you do to gather educators together to share during #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Awesome #BYOTchat tonight!  If missed check for the archives to be posted on http://t.co/wDb50UYI  #pbl #mlearning #byotchat
hugghinss @trescolumnae Yes, some Sts want to simply consume content because it is “safe.” We must help them become risk takers. #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @hugghinss Completely agree – love to work w sts re idea of Responsible Risk (Costa/HOM). But some tchrs seem terrified of risk. #byotchat
TheresaShafer @MyTakeOnIt #PBLChat every Tues. 9pm EST Also here is google doc w/ more info https://t.co/DdHZa7Uu  #byotchat
TheresaShafer @MyTakeOnIt  #PBLChat archive http://t.co/j8pVabXN,  no website @newtechnetwork tweets out topic and archive. #byotchat

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