#BYOTchat for 02/09/2012

Chat reads from top to bottom

SteveHayes_RB60 Welcome to #BYOTchat! Tonight’s topic is “Professional Development to support the creation & sustainability of a BYOT program” #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta <– Co-chair of school climate/culture committee in a school district implementing #BYOT program next year. #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow I’d like to start off by throwing this out there: to the teachers, what GOOD PD have you experienced? What made it good? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Hi @hugghinss @nathan_stevens @Mike_Penta glad were back for week two!
MyTakeOnIt I’m curious: Who in tonight’s #BYOTchat is working in schools with existing BYOD programs? Who is hoping to move toward BYOD?
hugghinss @SteveHayes_RB60 Looking forward to hearing from everyone tonight  #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta Music teacher is allowing 5th grade students 2 bring in music players 2 learn abt harmonies, melodies, beats, etc. with success. #BYOTchat
cybraryman1 Best PD I ever had was hands-on learning  #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 The best PD has been like a good lesson – engaging.  #BYOTchat
hugghinss @TimeToKnow The best PD for me ha been Twitter. There are so many who are willing to share #BYOTchat
40ishoracle Hey #BYOTchat! Can’t stick around tonight but my fav PD = Tech Petting Zoo. Every device we can find on the table and time to play.
hugghinss @Mike_Penta That is awesome. Makes learning relevan to those students #BYOTchat
s_bearden We are BYOD grades 6-12.  But we have not done much formal PD, just given teachers the option  to allow student device usage. #BYOTChat
nathan_stevens depends on what level you are dealing with when it comes to mobile devices #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 I agree – too often teachers are not given time to practice new skill RT @cybraryman1: Best PD I ever had was hands-on learning  #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt I’m a big fan of self-guided PD: Give teachers the choice of what device/tools to bring/us, choice of what PD fits their needs #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens if they are staring out,nmore discussion is best to get them comfortable with the switch to mobile #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @s_bearden Are your teachers motivated self-guided learners, or do they struggle with the devices in their hands? #byotchat
JanetLDee @MyTakeOnIt currently piloting BYOD in high school with 4 teachers, 10 sections (approx 200 students)
hugghinss @MyTakeOnIt Great point. Many of us are advocating for student choice, we also need to enable Ts #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow .@cybraryman1 Something like this would give you a great opportunity to ask questions during PD. #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens if they have had devices for a couple of weeks, then you can go more hands on #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow .@s_bearden Without formal PD, are teachers doing a lot of collaboration on their own? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @JanetLDee How do your teachers receive PD? #BYOTchat
hugghinss IMHO, teachers must be their own advocates. Find like-minded teachers who want to learn together. #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt What are your feelings about requireing PD versus making PD available to teachers who choose to take advantage? #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens if you start with hands on in the first session, teachers miss 75% of what is being discussed #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 The best PD is self motivated learning, but that doesn’t work with everyone – some need hands on training #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @JanetLDee Geat point: Often it’s more important to simply provide the TIME for self-guided PD rather than providing PD itself #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @hugghinss: IMHO, teachers must be their own advocates. Find like-minded teachers who want to learn together. #BYOTchat
hugghinss Yes: RT @SteveHayes_RB60: The best PD is self motivated learning, but that doesnt work with everyone – some need hands on training #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow .@nathan_stevens You don’t think some level of “guided exploration” would be preferable to just discussion? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt My dream is to help a school impliment Google-style “20% time” for teachers. #BYOTchat
hugghinss Admins need to recognize that teachers need a voice in the types of PD offered as well. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 As our dist’s webmaster, I am consistently surprised by what teachers don’t know! #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 great idea for a dist to allow time for self-guided PD, #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @Mike_Penta @SteveHayes_RB60 I LOVE seeing teachers learn FROM students! #BYOTchat
s_bearden @TimeToKnow @MyTakeOnIt We need to do more PD but we did not want to wait for a formal program to be in place b4 allowing BYOD. #byotchat
megormi RT @cybraryman1: Best PD I ever had was hands-on learning  #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta @SteveHayes_RB60 What about having students work together with teachers to develop rubrics? #BYOTChat
nathan_stevens @TimeToKnow i tried guided exp. 1st, but i missed a lot of the questions and spent more time answering them than presenting #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow RT @janetldee: @MyTakeOnIt mostly on their own. We need to get common time to learn from each other. #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @TimeToKnow i have done several ipad pd session so far and the better ones let the teachers guide the workshop #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @MyTakeOnIt: @Mike_Penta @SteveHayes_RB60 I LOVE seeing teachers learn FROM students! #BYOTchat
hugghinss Great idea. RT @Mike_Penta: @SteveHayes_RB60 What about having students work together with teachers to develop rubrics? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 In creating a BYOT program what should be the first PD?  General tech knowledge or gimmicky lesson ideas to get Ts to buy in? #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow My bad… do any of your schools use their common planning period as a chance for self-guided PD? (First one came out wrong :( ) #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Teachers need to realize that they don’t have to be major geeks to do BYOT #BYOTchat
hugghinss Students have a sense of accomplishment when they are able to assist teachers in learning tech #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 allow for a lot questions in the first pd sessions #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 Many teachers fear BYOD because they worry they will have to support stu tech & many devices = more struggle #BYOTchat
hugghinss @SteveHayes_RB60 Absolutely. We should allow students to take the lead & keep in mind we are learners also #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @TimeToKnow as questions are asked, then we start to show apps and how to build app fluency #BYOTchat
s_bearden @MyTakeOnIt I think that is a good reason for giving teachers a choice to allow BYOD, not requiring it.  #byotchat
TimeToKnow @nathan_stevens That sounds like a more teacher guided approach than a presentation. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 There’s a trend among some area schools to do an hour late start (once a week) for PD – but it’s not going to happen w/ us #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta @hugghinss And feel engaged in their learning! / students have a sense of accomplishment when they are able to assist teachers #BYOTChat
SteveHayes_RB60 http://t.co/cOIRRGwM  has a great venn diagram on Technological /  Pedagogical / Content Knowledge   #BYOTchat
cybraryman1 Teachers should not be afraid to learn from their students. Enjoy sessions at edcamps… that are student led  #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @s_bearden That’s where it gets tricky: tchrs need 2 b able 2 count on having a certain min expectation of tech in class #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @JanetLDee usually i have them bring in activit. they like and are comfortable with and we talk abt apps that allow them to cont. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Hey everyone this is my 1,000 tweet!  So I need to say Twitter has taught me a lot!! #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @cybraryman1 Yup: Can’t wait to offer stu-lead session at #EdCampBos, and looking fwd to hearing about #EdCampSS #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow .@nathan_stevens @JanetLDee That’s great – build off of stuff they already know. #BYOTchat
s_bearden @MyTakeOnIt How do you mean?  #byotchat
nathan_stevens @TimeToKnow it is what works best. allows them tobe comfortable with the devices. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @nathan_stevens are you byot or 1:1? #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 1:1 and byot. we have students that bring their own device and 1:1 ipad class #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta Out of curiosity, any districts have curriculum for students interested in developing their own apps? #BYOTChat
hugghinss @cybraryman1 The very best PD session I have ever attended was facilitated by students. #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @TimeToKnow @janetldee i have been giving mobile since handspring first came out, teacher driven is the best #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @s_bearden If teachers want to integrate tech in class and stus don’t have tech (or don’t have tech that can support the app/site) #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 that would be great RT @hugghinss: @cybraryman1 The very best PD session I have ever attended was facilitated by students. #BYOTchat
jdferries PD= comfortable room, free coffee, whiteboards, time, toys, and a teacher who says ” my goal is…” Let’s talk. #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow RT @jdferries: PD= comfortable room, free coffee, whiteboards, time, toys, and a teacher who says ” my goal is…” Let’s talk. #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow .@nathan_stevens @JanetLDee You’ve been at this for quite a while! Most common question you get? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt RT @jdferries: PD= comfortable room, free coffee, whiteboards, time, toys, and a teacher who says ” my goal is…” Let’s talk. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 free “real” coffee #BYOTchat
hugghinss Teachers also need to be willing to just take time to explore blogs, read news article and become informed about tech  #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @s_bearden Yes! And/or design lessons that allow students to make their own tech choices #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 PD as it relates to pedagogy has to be more than learning about apps or lesson ideas  #BYOTchat
lcarroll94 @SteveHayes_RB60 not enough at my school!!!  #BYOTchat
mrlundblade RT @jdferries: PD= comfortable room, free coffee, whiteboards, time, toys, and a teacher who says ” my goal is…” Let’s talk. #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt RT @SteveHayes_RB60: PD as it relates to pedagogy has to be more than learning about apps or lesson ideas  #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Shelly – What % of your teachers are on Twitter? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @lcarroll94 same with me, no one else from our BYOT/iPad committee is here.   #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @lcarroll94 @SteveHayes_RB60 So… how do we enable/empower teachers to seek chances to learn & take risks? #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow .@hugghinss This takes a lot of time to get set up, figuring which blogs have high signal/noise ratio. Provide good blogs in PD #BYOTchat
s_bearden RT @lcarroll94: @SteveHayes_RB60 not enough at my school!!!  #BYOTchat >> Mine either but we are slowly changing that….takes time…
hugghinss @TimeToKnow Agreed. I am referring to teachers making learning a daily activity on their own outside of pure PD sessions #BYOTchat
jdferries @timetoknow  our teacher resource room #BYOTchat http://t.co/jalt5guK
s_bearden @MyTakeOnIt I think that TELLING teachers they are empowered to seek chances to learn and take risks is a start! #byotchat
neene @MyTakeOnIt That is where I am struggling.  Informal sessions with food encourage my staff.  Need to find other ways to encourage #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt “@SteveHayes_RB60: @lcarroll94 same with me, no one else from our BYOT/iPad committee is here.   #BYOTchat” I hear you!
nathan_stevens @SteveHayes_RB60 before pedagogy there needs to a comfort level with devices #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 We need to put the teachers who task risks and the seek knowledge out in front – teaching others #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow RT @SteveHayes_RB60: We need to put the teachers who task risks and the seek knowledge out in front – teaching others #BYOTchat
s_bearden LOL this is what happens when I participate in 2 chats simultaneously I start mixing up hashtags!!! #isedchat #byotchat
TimeToKnow @hugghinss Yeah – setting teachers up to be able to do this outside of PD should be a component of good PD. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @nathan_stevens how much comfort level with devices do teachers need if they are going to several different types in the room? #BYOTchat
hugghinss RT @SteveHayes_RB60: We need to put the teachers who task risks and the seek knowledge out in front – teaching others #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @s_bearden I’m not sure I agree: Telling≠empowering. Modeling, supporting, showing must follow #ISEdchat #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @jdferries WOW – that is sweet! #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt YES! “@s_bearden: I agree! Sometimes ppl forget to COMMUNICATE expectations.  It is an important 1st (not last!) step!” #BYOTchat #ISEDchat
mrlundblade Agreed. Shared, INFORMAL teacher learning is important vimeo.com/8988360 @ddmeyer @hugghinss @timetoknow #BYOTchat
s_bearden RT @hugghinss: Sometimes teachers just need exposure to possibilities. #BYOTchat >>YES!
Mike_Penta I like the idea of student led PD for teachers. How was this accomplished? @hugghinss #BYOTChat
Brebeuf_IT @nathan_stevens students are already comfortable. Free teachers to teach the subject & skills. Students Will meet expectations #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @neene Food is a good place to start, but people need an emotional attachment/reaction to change their behavior #BYOTchat
nathan_stevens @Brebeuf_IT students are not theones to worry about, it is the teachers #BYOTchat
JanetLDee @Mike_Penta MIT @medialab has app inventor edu web site now: http://t.co/gsuWP0g9 you might be able to connect w/ tchrs there #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @hugghinss And it helps to see their peers (and students) modeling #BYOTchat
FlyontheCWall RT @s_bearden: RT @hugghinss: Sometimes teachers just need exposure to possibilities. #BYOTchat >>YES!
SteveHayes_RB60 not enough of our teachers share what they learn on their own w/ each other #BYOTchat
8Amber8 having more access with #BYOT will help teachers share their voice #BYOTchat #tichat Communication will increase. #Tichat
MyTakeOnIt RT @hugghinss: Sometimes teachers just need exposure to possibilities. #BYOTchat
hugghinss @Mike_Penta It was a planned session at a conference hosted by a school in Dallas. Students came prepared to share  #BYOTchat
neene @SteveHayes_RB60 hopefully having more access with #BYOT will help teachers share their voice #BYOTchat #tichat Communication will increase.
MyTakeOnIt “@Mike_Penta: I like the idea of student led PD for teachers. How was this accomplished? @hugghinss #BYOTChat” OpenSpaces; #Edcamp-stye PD
JanetLDee RT @neene: @SteveHayes_RB60 hopefully having more access with #BYOT will help teachers share their voice #BYOTchat #tichat Communication will increase.
SteveHayes_RB60 Where to start with BYOT PD – has any schools surveyed their teachers on tech knowledge? #BYOTchat
hugghinss @Mike_Penta Panel o students shared their preferences for 21st Century classrooms & curriculum #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 Interesting thought… How would you “survey teacher tech knowlege?” That could be intimidating for tchrs #BYOTchat
neene @MyTakeOnIt Tried student led pd.  Teachers freaked.  But it was yrs ago.  Maybe new atmosphere time 2 try again.  Maybe… lol ;) #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta We started PD by buying our building principals iPads so they could experience on their own what could be done/pitfalls/etc. #BYOTChat
MyTakeOnIt @neene Do you know about “Open Spaces” or “Open Space Technology?” #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @Mike_Penta @hugghinss Care to share more details on OpenSpaces + #EdCamp? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt #EdCamp is a conference based on OpenSpaces: Anyone can offer any session/conversation. There are 2 “rules” … #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta @TimeToKnow Not familiar with OpenSpaces #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Open Space Technology?? #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 Perhaps a focus-group-like discussion > survey? #BYOTchat
neene @MyTakeOnIt I participated in a few Unconferences (part of Openspace tech concept) loved it. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 is Open Spaces – like Ed Camps – where the everything is decided that morning #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @mytakeonit OpenSpace/#EdCamp Rule 1: Whatever conversation happens in a room/session is supposed to happen. It’s organic. #BYOTchat
jdferries @nathan_stevens once you give teachers permission to not stress over student tech, they feel relaxed and let IT handle questions. #byotchat
TimeToKnow @mike_penta Ah – looks like @MyTakeOnIt mentioned it.  More details on that would be great! #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 I would love to attend an Ed Camp #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt #EdCamp/OpenSpace rule #2: “The rule of 2 feet” Any participant can leave or enter any session/conversation at any time. #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt #EdCamp conferences are lead by the attendees. They start with the participants – anyone – decided what topics will be discussed. #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta For those who did PD already with teachers, what helped them overcome fears of student tech misuse? #BYOTChat
MyTakeOnIt “@neene: @MyTakeOnIt I participated in a few Unconferences (part of Openspace tech concept) loved it. #BYOTchat” >> Yup, they’re gret!
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes, #EdCamp is based on Open Space (or unconference) model #BYOTchat
neene Well @brophycat I think I’m off to the land of Facebook.  Have a great night everyone. Ty #tichat, #edtech, #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @mike_penta I think this issue of “control” is a major barrier in general to #BYOT / #BYOD adoption. #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt “@SteveHayes_RB60: I would love to attend an Ed Camp #BYOTchat” #EdCampBOS is coming up at end of April in Boston #BYOTChat
MyTakeOnIt “@SteveHayes_RB60: I would love to attend an Ed Camp #BYOTchat” #EdCampSS is coming up at end of March in PA #BYOTChat
SteveHayes_RB60 http://t.co/5qmVCjjI – Hanover, PA  – great site #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 Good night! Thanks for joining tonight’s #BYOTchat! Hope to see you again next week!
TimeToKnow @mytakeonit @SteveHayes_RB60 Got a link to share? #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt @neene @brophycat  Good night! Thanks for joining tonight’s #BYOTchat! Hope to see you again next week!
Mike_Penta @TimeToKnow I have to concur. Loss of control and lack of trust seem to be our biggest hurdles to overcome. #BYOTChat
TimeToKnow RT @SteveHayes_RB60: http://t.co/5qmVCjjI – Hanover, PA  – great site #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 regarding the control and student abuse – if lessons are engaging students will rise to the occasion and won’t abuse #BYOTchat
mr_magyar RT @cybraryman1: Teachers should not be afraid to learn from their students. Enjoy sessions at edcamps… that are student led  #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @stevehayes_rb60 Yes, but can we convince teachers of this being the case prior to introducing #BYOT? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 http://t.co/eiskXYlm #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 I know we have some great students that would love the chance to do PD with teachers! #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta @jdferries Great ideas! #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @TimeToKnow some – but some will come with closed minds #BYOTchat
hugghinss Agreed! @SteveHayes_RB60 My students are in the middle of a project, and I don’t feel they are off task because they are engaged #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt More info on upcoming #EdCamp: http://t.co/ZePc8ULx #EdCampSS: http://t.co/y3AhUnI2 #EdCampBOS: http://t.co/xSFI35Vp #BYOTchat:
Mike_Penta @SteveHayes_RB60 This has been my position as well. Students are generally good digital citizens when engaged. #BYOTChat
SteveHayes_RB60 #BYOTchat archives are on the BYOTchat website  http://t.co/JGVatZn4 #BYOTchat
MyTakeOnIt RT @SteveHayes_RB60: #BYOTchat archives are on the BYOTchat website  http://t.co/JGVatZn4 #BYOTchat
SNewco RT @s_bearden: RT @SteveHayes_RB60: #BYOTchat archives are on the BYOTchat website  http://t.co/dIxsdN3f #BYOTchat #mlearning
MyTakeOnIt I love this “We Trust You” video by @nchslmc students and @mluhtala: http://t.co/Kjnq3Ph7 #BYOTchat
s_bearden RT @SteveHayes_RB60: #BYOTchat archives are on the BYOTchat website  http://t.co/wsYNJosr #BYOTchat #mlearning
SteveHayes_RB60 BYOidea was that name your idea @mytakeonit ? – I like the name! #BYOTchat
jdferries teacher tip: ready-to-use tech placement (upper right of desk). no more undertable txting & teacher at ease when its in sight. #byotchat
Mike_Penta @SteveHayes_RB60 Appreciate that! I report to all committee members and archived copy saves me some time :) #BYOTChat
MyTakeOnIt RT @SteveHayes_RB60: Also the byotchat website has BYOideas http://t.co/f8s1GO4s  share what you think our next topic should be #BYOTchat
dpos26 RT @cybraryman1: Teachers should not be afraid to learn from their students. Enjoy sessions at edcamps… that are student led  #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta @jdferries That was our superintendent’s first suggestion – devices out of pockets and on student’s desks. #BYOTChat
SteveHayes_RB60 @jdferries good tip! #BYOTchat
s_bearden Via @SteveHayes_RB60: #byotchat website has BYOideas http://t.co/Z1YV6Vys share thoughts about our next chat topic  #mlearning
hugghinss @jdferries Great tip. I do that as well in my classroom. #BYOTchat
jdferries @Mike_Penta took kids some getting used to but now they know what it means. harder to do with a 20″ screen gaming rig :) #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Goodnight everyone – thank you for joining #BYOTchat – let the team know what you want us to discuss next week – thank you!! #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta A Tongue-in-Cheek Video About Bans on Smartphones in Schools http://t.co/P75n2woH #BYOTchat [VIDEO] Enjoy!
s_bearden Great chats, #isedchat and #byotchat peeps. Signing off for now!
TimeToKnow @mike_penta @SteveHayes_RB60 Glad to hear it! Archive will go up in the morning the day after. #BYOTchat
Mike_Penta Thanks for another great chat! Time goes by quickly! #BYOTChat
jdferries @TimeToKnow ha! not a tech petting zoo day. i’ll see if i have a shot of that on my tablet. flex. furniture &the keurig are key. #byotchat
MyTakeOnIt Thank you to @SteveHayes_RB60 for moderating tonight’s #BYOTchat! Please visit byotchat.com & #BYOTchat throughout the week!
lcarroll94 struggling with archive formatting… any success with this #byotchat ?
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @Mike_Penta: Thanks for another great chat! Time goes by quickly! #BYOTchat

One thought on “#BYOTchat for 02/09/2012

  1. Going off of the previous mecmont discussion, how do you feel about a very shy, introverted student attempting to get the same sort of information from a teacher as an open and outgoing one? I myself am not a very good speaker, and am very introverted to say the least. In fact, I have some major social phobias which have led me to skipping classes altogether for fear of being called on. For some people this makes sense if you are unprepared, but I typically am up on all my work to the best of my abilities. In response to your video, do you agree with how school systems function with normal test procedures? I find studying specifically for a test is rather self-defeating to actually learning something. If everything not on the test is thrown aside, and a person is really only studying for a good grade, then nothing is really be learned (and more importantly, retained).

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