#BYOTchat for 03/15/2012

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TimeToKnow #BYOTchat starts in 15 minutes! ‘BYOT Pitfalls and How to Avoid Them’ 9-10PMEST
Sirotiak02 RT @SteveHayes_RB60: Pls RT & invite others to join us!  “BYOT Pitfalls and How to Avoid Them”  http://t.co/Aj9Krvs5 #BYOTchat Thurs 9pm EST #edtech #cpchat
BYOTNetwork Too many devices-too little time! #BYOTchat starts in 5 minutes! ‘BYOT Pitfalls and How to Avoid Them’ 9-10PMEST
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @BYOTNetwork: Too many devices-too little time! #BYOTchat starts in 5 minutes! BYOT Pitfalls and How to Avoid Them 9-10PMEST #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Join #BYOTchat in 5 minutes as we discuss BYOT/D pitfalls and how to avoid them. #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Good evening and welcome to #BYOTchat.  Tonight’s topic: “BYOT/D pitfalls and how to avoid them” #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 What are some of the most common pitfalls? #byotchat
BYOTNetwork RT @d_martin05 @ToddWhitaker “We need to stop asking questions in school that Siri can answer” #byotchat
BYOTNetwork One pitfall – Teachers returning to old comfortable ways of teaching that don’t empower students. #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @BYOTNetwork – Well that put a smile on my face! #byotchat
andrewcuthbert RT @SteveHayes_RB60: Good evening and welcome to #BYOTchat.  Tonight’s topic: “BYOT/D pitfalls and how to avoid them” #byotchat
andrewcuthbert RT @BYOTNetwork: One pitfall – Teachers returning to old comfortable ways of teaching that don’t empower students. #byotchat
TimeToKnow @byotnetwork Failing to fully integrate technology into their regular habits #BYOTchat
onboardlearning What has been the hardest things for teachers to deal with in classrooms with byot? #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 Investment in Instructional support/pd is necessary along with strong leadership support  for #byotchat to be successful
SteveHayes_RB60 … soft sell a riot will ensue – I want to encourage them to change their  delivery but not sure how to tell them w/out insulting #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 Common pitfall 1:  no instructional support, lack of instructional tech training modeled in pd.  #byotchat
ZinkEd_u Teachers see BYOT as management or disciplinary tool-it kills the spark #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 teachers & students RT @TimeToKnow: @byotnetwork Failing to fully integrate technology into their regular habits #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @onboardlearning Teachers sometimes think they have to know how every device works before beginning BYOT #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @onboardlearning I think the hardest thing will be taking risks – being willing to step out of comfort zone #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @JenniferMiller9 Right! The PD can’t be direct instruction or a lecture to model empowerment #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @TimeToKnow failing to understand what true integration is. #BYOTchat
JenniferMiller9 @BYOTNetwork So much pd brought in is not 21st century learning, a lot of lecture, not modeling.  #byotchat
TimeToKnow RT @ZinkEd_u: @TimeToKnow failing to understand what true integration is. #BYOTchat
ZinkEd_u @JenniferMiller9 I think we should never plan FOR technology. It should be an invisible tool in whatever lesson we plan. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @ZinkEd_u: @TimeToKnow failing to understand what true integration is. #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 learning begins at the end of comfort zone. This is the biggest obstacle for many teachers to overcome. #BYOTchat
SNewco BYOD “Food for Thought” http://t.co/xwRaxHnl #mlearning #BYOTchat #edchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Great to see some new faces here for #BYOTchat – thanks for joining us! #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 @ZinkEd_u Exactly however #edtech should be involved in the process or decisions #byotchat so that support is addressed
BYOTNetwork Pitfall 2 – Thinking BYOT is all about the devices – It is about community, project-based learning, and online learning #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @squirrelfriend1 How much resistance from teachers have you had during your trial? #byotchat
cybraryman1 Important to make parents aware of how BYOT will be employed for educational purposes.  Plan hands-on workshops for them  #byotchat
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Sorry I was only here for a bit – insane day! Look forward to next week’s #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 Tools used must work on a variety of platforms for #byotchat to work.
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @BYOTNetwork: Pitfall 2 Thinking BYOT is all about the devices – It is about community, project-based learning,&online learning #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Good point about parent workshop @cybraryman1  Has any other school here been involved w/ parent byot workshop? #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @JenniferMiller9 pd comes from admin they must model. Their presentation stuck on Pwr Point &a lecture. Tchrs think its expected. #BYOTchat
squirrelfriend1 @SteveHayes_RB60 not much resistance b/c it’s a small volunteer grp, but tchers have not had pd and so they are winging it. #BYOTchat
cybraryman1 Good to have students & parents involved in developing AUP(Acceptable Use Policies) for BYOT #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 easier to count how many embrace it. :) #BYOTchat  hoping for a better year next year.
SteveHayes_RB60 I think the bulk of our BYOT PD will come from within our own teachers sharing ideas. #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 @ZinkEd_u But How will teachers know how to fully integrate if they never see what it looks like, admin must model #byotchat actions speak
BYOTNetwork @ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 Love it! “Learning begins at the end of the comfort zone!” #byotchat #edchat
trescolumnae @cybraryman1 Such a great point! Also need hands-on workshops for tchrs and CLEAR expectations for everybody. No chaos! #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 RT @cybraryman1: Good to have students & parents involved in developing AUP(Acceptable Use Policies) for BYOT #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 @tomrchambers @BYOTNetwork & involving others in true collaboration, problem solving, and using tech as the bridge for engagement #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @cybraryman1 we are planning parent BYOT night, and parents are thrilled. They have lots of ??, but excited about possibilities. #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @stevehayes_rb60 @cybraryman1 Getting parent support in schools is really crucial to a major change like #BYOTchat
BYOTNetwork @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes – It is important to target the lead teachers to help spread the BYOT initiative! #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 @cybraryman1 Frequent meetings to encourage support, to address parental concerns, instead of reacting to events.  #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @ZinkEd_u  Are you taping (youtube?) your parent night? #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 RT @cybraryman1: Good to have students & parents involved in developing AUP(Acceptable Use Policies) for BYOT #byotchat
IamOkema MT @cybraryman1: Impt to make parents aware of how BYOT will be employed for educ purposes.Plan hands-on workshops for them  #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @IamOkema Great idea of having parents do hand-on workshop #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @JenniferMiller9 @cybraryman1 In my experience, most parents, students, and admins support BYOT – Guess what group holds out? #byotchat
TimeToKnow @zinked_u @cybraryman1 Let us know how that goes – some of those questions can be useful for a future #BYOTchat
ZinkEd_u @JenniferMiller9 modeling and high expectation must come from admin. Just support is not enough if they don’t live the talk.#BYOTchat
ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 agree. Collaboration among inspired teachers is the best pd. their passion is contagious. #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @cybraryman1 Yes – best way to make sure policies actually work. Also important to start with the WHY before working on the WHAT #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 @IamOkema @cybraryman1 And allow for workshops to be addressed to parents in English and Spanish #byotchat
trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes, definitely. For folks trapped in “what abt test scores” paradigm, how to reassure? #byotchat
TimeToKnow @byotnetwork @JenniferMiller9 @cybraryman1 Do admins always support it? #BYOTchat
ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 didn’t plan to, but it’s something we might need to do. Great idea! Txs #BYOTchat
JenniferMiller9 RT @ZinkEd_u: @SteveHayes_RB60 agree. Collaboration among inspired teachers is the best pd. their passion is contagious. #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 reluctant teachers would be best off to start with one thing – not trying to change everything at one time #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @ZinkEd_u let us know if you do tape it #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork ITS? LOL! #BYOTchat Jk
BYOTNetwork Pitfall 3? – Not having a plan once the excitement of bringing your technology to school wears off! #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @ZinkEd_u Quite possibly! – But I was thinking that the hold outs were the teachers! :-) #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 pitfall #3 – Continue focusing on the successes along with offering new ideas #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @trescolumnae good thinkers r good test takers. BYOT allows kids own learning and learn HOW to think instead of WHAT to think #BYOTchat
squirrelfriend1 I have had ss question byot. Some believe tech is unnecessary. I was stunned-last grp I would have guessed. #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u I am absolutely with you – but know so many tchrs who are scared b/c “cramming content” has “worked” in past #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae Good point, Justin, but I can’t reassure peeps that test scores improve with BYOT.  Skill & drill is too easy! #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork witnessed that too many times, unfortunately. How to deal with that? #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Agree – the older the student the more ownership they need to take in their learning ZinkEd_u @trescolumnae  #byotchat
trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork Yes – good point! Skill & drill is too easy, but sadly is all that some folks seem to know. How 2 help them? #byotchat
JenniferMiller9 @squirrelfriend1 situations were leaders believe #edtech is unecessary grows when change is feared #byotchat
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes, definitely. Sadly I see more great stuff w younger sts. Have you read @irasocol piece about middle schools? #byotchat
40ishoracle @squirrelfriend1 really? Our SS team largest advocates for BYOT as they teach w/ primary sources…hurray for N’al Archives #BYOTChat
trescolumnae @squirrelfriend1 Have a SS colleague who, till THIS YEAR, used overhead projector and transparencies. Now, progress? doc camera #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @trescolumnae  haven’t read @irasocol  middle school post – just looked at, will read it after the chat #byotchat
TimeToKnow @jennifermiller9 So somebody has to push them – parents, or students, or teachers that want it #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @JenniferMiller9 Yes – and tchrs need NOT to be afraid of different platforms. Also, sts need to develop troubleshooting skills #byotchat
trescolumnae @onboardlearning So many of my sts think device = entertainment only. Hard to change THEIR paradigm to device = lrng tool #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @SteveHayes_RB60 I see how powerful it is in primary grades, too. Kids “grow up”  when given a chance and guided by teachers. #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @trescolumnae @onboardlearning That’s why we need to integrate devices into learning – expands scope of how they see their devices #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 Two new changes in IL – evaluations will include the teachers’ use of tech and seniority/tenure no longer a factor in RIF #byotchat
squirrelfriend1 Sorry #BYOTchat by ss I meant students, not social studies, my bad. Students are questioning byot. Some tell me they need speaking skills
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 @irasocol It will rock your world. Ira’s pt: MS often treat sts like 10-yr-olds – no increase in resp when needed #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @trescolumnae I like that train of thought – middle schools students are capable of more than many give them credit for #byotchat
trescolumnae @onboardlearning Oddly, for me, it’s been some sts’ perspective on their devices. They think device = entertainment only! #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae @onboardlearning Right – students don’t really know how to learn with their devices – they still need their teachers #byotchat
BYOTNetwork Teachers need to ask the right questions to encourage students to learn via BYOT but many want to give answers. #byotchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae @onboardlearning  Students come to us more as consumers than as producers #byotchat
squirrelfriend1 Any creative ideas for sts w/o devices? #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @40ishoracle @squirrelfriend1 For my SS colleagues who use primary sources, yes, BYOT is huge. For those who lecture/worksheet … #byotchat
trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork @onboardlearning Yes – and that’s why tchrs them/ourselves need to feel comfortable with learning w devices #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork this is where role of media center must change from “come check out books” to “come and let’s learn together.” #BYOTchat
onboardlearning RT Where can we find good examples of a day in the life of a school with byot? It’s hard to imagine what goes on (or not) #byotchat
trescolumnae @TimeToKnow @onboardlearning Definitely! I find some sts are as scared of device integrated into learning as most resistant tchrs #byotchat
BYOTNetwork @SteveHayes_RB60 Good point! Classrooms that already utilize #PBL often have an easier time with BYOT – the tools help! #byotchat
cmt1 RT @SNewco: BYOD “Food for Thought” http://t.co/9C7qCBhT #mlearning #BYOTchat #edchat
BYOTNetwork “@ZinkEd_u: The role of media center must change from “come check out books” to “come and let’s learn together.” #BYOTchat”
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Agree! My own kids are 14 and 10 (9th grade and 4th).  Have personally witnessed MS give less resp than ES did #byotchat
trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork Yes! That’s why my daughter (14) wants to be a school media coordinator … or maybe a teacher. #byotchat
BYOTNetwork “@SteveHayes_RB60: @trescolumnae @onboardlearning  Students come to us more as consumers than as producers #byotchat” – And teachers too!
TimeToKnow @trescolumnae @onboardlearning I think there’s a desire by students to keep “learning” and “entertainment” separate in their lives #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 @onboardlearning Tim @BYOTnetwork is who you are look for! #byotchat
trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 @BYOTNetwork @onboardlearning Yes – which is sad. Yet actually they DO produce for each other, outside sch. #byotchat
trescolumnae @TimeToKnow @onboardlearning Yes, I think that’s true. Probably b/c they’ve come 2 see school as opposite of engaging/entertaining #byotchat
TimeToKnow RT @BYOTNetwork: “@SteveHayes_RB60: @trescolumnae @onboardlearning  Students come to us more as consumers than as producers #byotchat” – And teachers too!
ZinkEd_u @squirrelfriend1 http://t.co/Sw3RxoII I love “BYOT huddle”. Kids r on top of each other, sharing a devic -forces collaboration #BYOTchat
TimeToKnow @trescolumnae @onboardlearning But they learn more fully when the two are part of the same experience #BYOTchat
SteveHayes_RB60 The role of media center needs to change from the 1900′s don’t say a word – be still and learn to a more engaging eviroment #byotchat
ZinkEd_u @onboardlearning we have a lot of those in Forsyth! #BYOTchat
trescolumnae RT @BYOTNetwork: Teachers need to ask the right questions to encourage students to learn via BYOT but many want to give answers. #byotchat
squirrelfriend1 @ZinkEd_u this is why I join these chats, great ideas. #BYOTchat
trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork Agree. Comes back to issue of paradigm. For 20c tchrs, teaching = giving info/telling. Hard 2 let go of that! #byotchat
BYOTNetwork “@squirrelfriend1: Any creative ideas for sts w/o devices? #BYOTchat” Is that another pitfall that others see very often?
SteveHayes_RB60 @ZinkEd_u “BYOT huddle” – I like that! #byotchat
IamOkema RT @JenniferMiller9: @IamOkema @cybraryman1 And allow for workshops to be addressed to parents in English and Spanish #byotchat <- agree
onboardlearning @trescolumnae @TimeToKnow Do u know of videos where we can SEE classrooms in action or hear teacher explain the learning scenario? #byotchat
trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u @squirrelfriend1 Yes – I construct tasks & groups so “at least one screen” – works really well #byotchat
TimeToKnow @trescolumnae @onboardlearning And really, they’re not wrong – that’s why we want to integrate tech, keep them engaged #BYOTchat
IamOkema RT @SteveHayes_RB60: @IamOkema Great idea of having parents do hand-on workshop #byotchat <- @CYBRARYMAN1 ‘s idea I chimmed in. :)
JenniferMiller9 RT @BYOTNetwork: “@SteveHayes_RB60: @trescolumnae @onboardlearning  Students come to us more as consumers than as producers #byotchat” – And teachers too!
onboardlearning @ZinkEd_u Are these scenarios available somewhere to view online? #byotchat Are there min requirements for the technology?
SteveHayes_RB60 For those already doing BYOT, how useful is maintaining BYOT webpage for your teachers with resources?  Is it used?  #byotchat
BYOTNetwork “@onboardlearning: Do u know of videos where we can SEE classrooms in action? #byotchat” http://t.co/v5RzOPAR
40ishoracle As former media spec & library