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| SteveHayes_RB60 | Welcome to #BYOTchat! Tonight’s topic: “Fact vs. Fiction, Mythbusting BYOT in Education” #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | What are the concerns regarding BYOT? #BYOTChat |
| TimeToKnow | I think the inequity issue is going to be one of the biggest hurdles. #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | In regards to inequity, it’s not only those without device, but those with the weaker devices that concerns people #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | With the schools that are currently BYOT, how does the inequity myth play out? #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | I see that the students w/out devices now have greater access to school resources since many students bring their own. #BYOTChat |
| JanetLDee | Some of our 8th graders who bring devices are uncomfortable that they can and others can’t. #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Do some students with more powerful devices have an advantage? If so, how much? #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | @JanetLDee Do you mean that they feel guilty? #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | @janetldee Those that feel this way, do they share? Is there any partnering in class? #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | @SteveHayes_RB60 You cant measure advantage that they may (or may not) have. It depends on individual problem processing ability #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | @JanetLDee I see that with my 6th graders, but often those with the better devices are the 1st to offer to partner up/share #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Chris Russell (who was going to try to make the chat) http://t.co/qfdua14G wrote that the “D” in BYOD needs to be standardized #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | @stevehayes_rb60 If you standardize the “D’” the way he seems to suggest, you’re just mandating 1:1 w/o budget support #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | @SteveHayes_RB60 a standardized D would be a tough sell to parents, unless you just meant minimum performance criteria #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | RT @janetldee: 8th graders are not OK sharing probably due to parent’s concerns about safekeeping of devices. HS students share… #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | @TimeToKnow I thought the same thing. But I wouldn’t be apposed to guidelines as to what is acceptable #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | @janetldee So the students would share if not for the parents? That’s unfortunate. #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Guidelines as what type of devices would also protect parents from wasting money on the wrong device #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | Another concern that I have heard is that students may be distracted by their technology and won’t focus on learning. #BYOTChat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | @BYOTnetwork Does FCS offer any suggestions as to what type of devices a student should bring? #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | @stevehayes_rb60 I think if you don’t include smartphone (i.e tablets+), you cut out of a ton of BYOT potential. #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | RT @janetldee: @TimeToKnow Our BYOD is new. Hopefully time will change this. #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Students being distracted is a big concern of reluctant teachers #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @SteveHayes_RB60 We don’t tell students what tech to bring. They usually stop bringing devices that don’t do what they want. #BYOTChat |
| robkmil | RT @SteveHayes_RB60: Students being distracted is a big concern of reluctant teachers #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | I’ve noticed that the level of implementation of BYOT by the teacher also affects the types of devices students bring. #BYOTChat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Is it fair to say that the teachers who are afraid of Ss being distracted by BYOT are the teachers who are less tech-savy? #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @JanetLDee For example, if teachers do projects that require certain types of tech, then parents find a way to provide. #BYOTChat |
| trescolumnae | @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes … and yet their students are also distracted by non-tech stuff (doodling, passing notes). Do they notice? #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork Good point! My school is the “BYOT pilot” for district – sts figuring out what works & what doesn’t. Neat 2 see. #byotchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | @trescolumnae So True! #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JanetLDee @TimeToKnow Interesting! My HS students are very willing to share – and they’ve discovered diff devices 4 diff purposes #byotchat |
| SrtaLisa | @trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 The distraction argument is the same as the cheating one, but students do both with and w/out tech #BYOTchat |
| TimeToKnow | @trescolumnae @SteveHayes_RB60 Dealing with distraction is part of teaching, and it’s going to be a problem w or w/o tech #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @SteveHayes_RB60 Heard another great excuse this week: BYOT bad b/c “enables those kids 2 use tech 24/7 & not learn 2 interact!” #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae Distracting behaviors of students w/out BYOT is a great point, and have you seen teachers in PD?  #BYOTChat |
| SrtaLisa | If students are distracted by tech, I don’t blame them alone. What is wrong with my lesson that they are not engaged? #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae The expectations of the teacher and how they communicate them to students and parents are essential to good BYOT #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | RT @SrtaLisa: If students are distracted by tech, I dont blame them alone. What is wrong with my lesson that they are not engaged? #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes – and a big part of LEARNING is learning 2 manage distractions & manage oneself #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes, exactly! My point about the cheating argument: if the task is such that “cheating” helps, bad task #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | You’re all providing me with some great solutions – what about the possibility of inappropriate behavior with BYOT? #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork That is why I teach online rather than F2F PD courses for my school district as a rule. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork So true! Our school has struggled a bit b/c insufficient convo among tchrs and admin before we started. Unclear exp. #byotchat |
| TimeToKnow | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork Wouldn’t web PD be even more difficult to be engaging? #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork In general, inappropriate behavior w BYOT is … inappropriate & already covered by some other policy. #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae @stevehayes_rb60 I see that students interact even more with their tech than before BYOT! #BYOTchat |
| christensen143 | @SteveHayes_RB60 I just added this to Tweetdeck. Wish I would have seen this earlier. #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | @BYOTNetwork of course there will be some inappropriate behavior – adults test the limit and speed – students use devices sneakily #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | @christensen143 Welcome Chris, I enjoyed your article BYOD or Not to BYOD by Chris Christensen http://t.co/lXRj3Skd #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork For example, st tuned out, watching movie, won’t use device properly – no diff from other “failure 2 comply” issue #byotchat |
| SrtaLisa | @BYOTNetwork its unrealistic to try to stop all inappropriate use, need consequences in place to deter such actions #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @TimeToKnow @BYOTNetwork Depends on the course! I facilitate one on differentiated instruction – willing participants #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @TimeToKnow @BYOTNetwork Plus, my winning personality … and if they’re distracted by technology, no prob. Asynchronous #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @SrtaLisa @BYOTNetwork Exactly! “Stop ALL inappropriate use” is asking 4 a perfect world. Not going 2 happen! #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae @srtalisa Maybe the “mistakes” with tech that kids make are actually good learning opportunities. #BYOTchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork BYOT allows the lesson to intrude on the distractions rather than tech distracting FROM the lesson #BYOTchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @trescolumnae @SrtaLisa @BYOTNetwork Plus, people learn well from making mistakes #BYOTchat |
| christensen143 | RT @MyTakeOnIt: #BYOT allows the lesson to intrude on the distractions rather than tech distracting FROM the lesson #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Teachers need to know how to work / trouble-shoot the students’ devices. is another myth #BYOTchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @christensen143 @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork Must give @mluhtala credit—it came from a convo she & I had abt FB as a distraction #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | RT @MyTakeOnIt: BYOT allows the lesson to intrude on distractions rather than tech distracting FROM the lesson #BYOTchat great explanation |
| BYOTNetwork | BYOT is the teacher’s PD in tech skills. They get to learn from the students. #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | RT @BYOTNetwork: BYOT is the teachers PD in tech skills. They get to learn from the students. #BYOTchat |
| christensen143 | RT @BYOTNetwork: BYOT is the teacher’s PD in tech skills. They get to learn from the students. #BYOTchat |
| JanetLDee | RT @SrtaLisa: RT @MyTakeOnIt: BYOT allows the lesson to intrude on distractions rather than tech distracting FROM the lesson #BYOTchat great explanation |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | The Contraband of Some Schools is The Disruptive Innovation of Others with BYOT by Tim Clark http://t.co/W6sVwxro #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork @srtalisa Agree! Had some great examples this week of “mistakes” that became opportunities 4 all 2 learn #byotchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 We need to encourage more teachers to look to students for more answers #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | @SteveHayes_RB60 This myth is harder to overcome. Teachers are born to always have the answer. I knew almost everything beforeBYOT #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | BYOD or Not to BYOD by Chris Christensen http://t.co/lXRj3Skd #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @SteveHayes_RB60 One fun aspect of #BYOT for me is rare occasions when sts do need help & I get to learn abt unfamiliar devices #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @SteveHayes_RB60 Yes, and it makes me VERY tired! Usually comes from tchrs who need sts 2 turn computer on 4 them  #byotchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Agree! RT @MyTakeOnIt: @SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 We need to encourage more teachers to look to students for more answers #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @SteveHayes_RB60 @BYOTNetwork Yes, definitely! #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | RT @SteveHayes_RB60: RT @BYOTNetwork: BYOT is the teachers PD in tech skills. They get to learn from the students. #BYOTchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @SteveHayes_RB60 @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork Which is why we’ll be inviting some students to participate in a #askastudent #BYOTchat soon |
| SrtaLisa | @MyTakeOnIt @SteveHayes_RB60 Last week I mentioned schools student Tech Squad – so successful – they are better than some paid IT #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | #BYOTchat archives are be posted at http://t.co/C2T8f9xR #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 I think that’s why some tchrs resist #BYOT – they know it’s death knell 4 tchr as fount of knowledge #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | ‚Äú@MyTakeOnIt: We’ll be inviting some students to participate in a #askastudent #BYOTchat soon‚Äù That sounds awesome! |
| MyTakeOnIt | @SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 #SLA down in Philly has an excellent student tech team—I saw them shine at #EduCon #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Let us know (via http://t.co/C2T8f9xR) if you have any suggestions for BYOTchat topics! #BYOTchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @daveandcori I fight with that same issue sometimes. BYOT can also suppliment school’s tech #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | RT @trescolumnae: they know #BYOT death knell 4 tchr as fount of knowledge #byotchat sad that personal status comes before student learning |
| BYOTNetwork | Thanks for a great #BYOTchat fellow BYOT Mythbusters: @SteveHayes_RB60 @SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt @trescolumnae @TimeToKnow |
| MyTakeOnIt | Thanks to everyone who participated in #BYOTchat tonight. I started participating late, but was following along for a while. Good stuff! |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | I need to leave, thanks everyone! See you next week. #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | Thanks for a great #BYOTchat fellow BYOT Mythbusters: @christensen143 @JanetLDee @daveandcori |
| MyTakeOnIt | …and thank you to the newest members of the official BYOTeam, @BYOTNetwork and @nathan_stevens Good to have you on board #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @daveandcori Definitely a concern, but I’d say 2 things. 1) Find out how many, don’t assume. 2) Budget 4 tech 4 them #byotchat |
| MyTakeOnIt | @trescolumnae @daveandcori My favorite BYOT is when the students’ tech supplements the school’s tech #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @daveandcori For example, lots of colleagues thought our lower SES sts had no tech. Actually, many have (prepaid) smartphones #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @SrtaLisa Yes, sad, but not surprising. How many tchrs refer 2 “my” clsrm or school > “ours”? Some want 2 own knowledge, too #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @MyTakeOnIt @daveandcori Yes, definitely. Sts’ tech supplements and frees up schools’ tech – best of all worlds #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork @SteveHayes_RB60 @SrtaLisa @MyTakeOnIt @TimeToKnow Oh, I want to be a Mythbuster Thanks for that! #byotchat |
| Edu_Thompson | RT @MyTakeOnIt: @trescolumnae @daveandcori My favorite BYOT is when the students’ tech supplements the school’s tech #BYOTchat |
| SrtaLisa | RT @BYOTNetwork: Thanks for a great #BYOTchat fellow BYOT Mythbusters: we should get a cool title every week to get people to join |
| 234chem | @BYOTNetwork Really want to get in on one of your #BYOTchat events sometime. Sorry I missed out this evening. |
| ONN8 | @SteveHayes_RB60 I think that goes for admins too #BYOTchat |
| daveandcori | but who decides who gets what tech? What if students tech is inferior? Back to school supplied tech? #BYOTchat |
| daveandcori | RT @MyTakeOnIt: @trescolumnae @daveandcori My favorite BYOT is when the students’ tech supplements the school’s tech #BYOTchat |
| s_bearden | RT @SteveHayes_RB60: “7 Myths About BYOD Debunked” by Lisa Nielsen http://t.co/WzdpO8ye #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SteveHayes_RB60 was not able to attend the chat real time tonight (a mixture of reasons); will attempt to respond to some posts #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SrtaLisa @SteveHayes_RB60 Not always; in some cases parents could be more easily convinced to buy D under a standard. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @TimeToKnow @SteveHayes_RB60 With iPads, it would be a replacement. If you go another tech path, it might mean standards. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SteveHayes_RB60 @TimeToKnow But there have been D standards in secondary and post-secondary education for years. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SteveHayes_RB60 It is the ease of the OS and the availability of apps that impacts advantage more than power of the device. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SteveHayes_RB60 Sorry, but I’m a techie and this is true. Neither over or underestimate the technical abilities of students. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SteveHayes_RB60 In my job, I’m regularly approached by students (even students not my own) with tech support issues for BYOT. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @SteveHayes_RB60 Simply put, just because someone has a D, it doesn’t meant they know how to use it, even I’d they are <18. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @trescolumnae @daveandcori Find out how much they know about the tech they are bringing. Crucial in any form of education. #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae At our school, teacher BYOT is more of a distraction at staff meetings than anything else! #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae in fact, we have rules on staff development days where faculty cannot bring/use BYOT! #BYOTchat |
| choirguy_ | @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae so the killer question: if teachers/staff can’t use BYOT correctly, how will/can students? #BYOTchat |
| missnoor28 | RT @daveandcori: Biggest issue with trying #BYOD and #BYOTchat is what about students who have no tech to bring? Real concern in my district #edchat |
| blair_cook | RT @s_bearden: RT @SteveHayes_RB60: “7 Myths About BYOD Debunked” by Lisa Nielsen http://t.co/WzdpO8ye #BYOTchat |
| fgsemedo | RT @fryed: RT @hobsonjill: Great Post! Choosing between BYOT and BYOD why 1 letter matters http://t.co/uOCUMHWm #byotchat #byot #byod |
| VivienTuckerman | RT @daveandcori: Biggest issue with trying #BYOD and #BYOTchat is what about students who have no tech to bring? Real concern in my district #edchat |
| jkpriestley | RT @BYOTNetwork: BYOT is the teacher’s PD in tech skills. They get to learn from the students. #BYOTchat |
| s_bearden | RT @SteveHayes_RB60: “BYOD or Not to BYOD” by Chris Christensen http://t.co/q5heodfm #BYOTchat #edtech |
| cybraryman1 | My Google Docs page (uses in the classroom…) http://t.co/yLoSUOJj #edchat #tichat #byotchat |