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| BYOTNetwork | Welcome to #BYOTchat! How can we facilitate critical thinking with BYOT? |
| MrBrianBobbitt | By teaching that tech is a tool rather than a solution. #byotchat |
| JamesDiGioia | I would start by suggesting that providing access to info in class gives opportunity to discuss quality of sources. #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @MrBrianBobbitt But how can those tools be used to encourage critical thinking? #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | understanding that part of the BYOT process is the evaluation of task/problem & choosing tools that do the job. Reflection key #byotchat |
| PaulElevenXXI | @BYOTNetwork learning apps and choosing info for research helps students develop critical thinking. #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Providing opportunities with tech: collaboration, presentations, self/peer-reflection, research, open communication. #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @jdferries What ways do you use at your school to help students reflect? tools? processes? #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | BYOT is all about choices, the process that is critical thinking itself. #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @PaulElevenXXI @BYOTNetwork and the process of evaluating and choosing sources/apps fosters critical thinking. #byotchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Also important for student to be able to choose correct tools to demonstrate knowledge. Resources. #byotchat |
| PaulElevenXXI | @ZinkEd_u BYOT is also about resources. #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @BYOTNetwork breakdown tasks to parts. questioning/inquiry to guide self-solve. Keep recording of past solutions to refer back #byotchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork @jdferries I like tools that have whiteboards and recording features #BYOTchat |
| PaulElevenXXI | @JamesDiGioia @byotnetwork correct. #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @ZinkEd_u By choice, do you mean that the students are empowered to research as needed to answer questions? what else? #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | Communicating with BYOT forces students 2 really think about their presentations & their formats. Can’t teach it with worksheets #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @BYOTNetwork lots of claim analysis through articles to build up questioning & evidence validation skills.socratic inquiry to lead #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork I think one key is to help sts change paradigm from 20c “righ answers” to 21c “excellent questions” #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | This is what education is all about! Our should be. RT @ZinkEd_u: BYOT is all about choices, the process that is critical thinking #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @BYOTNetwork @zinked_u Teaching students how to ask questions to nurture inquiry is the challenge! Suggestions? #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @MrBrianBobbitt Definitely! Specifying tool and process does NOT help with critical thinking. But it’s easy to fall into that! #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @PaulElevenXXI yes, we have to choose those too!  #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Here are some resources our students have used. http://t.co/ZH0w9rON #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | BYOT teaches critical thinking in real life settings and situations instead of fabricated passages. That’s why it’s so powerful. #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | open assessments, with student choice in project and design. http://t.co/FjxVV3nY the tools, evals, etc. meet stated objectives #byotchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork +1! Process over end goals. #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @jdferries I want to know more about what you mean about claim analysis…Do you mean info presented online? #BYOTchat |
| PaulElevenXXI | @ZinkEd_u choosing the correct tool is also important to develop critical thinking. #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | “@MrBrianBobbitt: Here are some resources our students have used. http://t.co/D3oadSHz #byotchat†Great for critical thinking! |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @PaulElevenXXI Yes – key to help students develop criteria for assessing / choosing good resources for a task, too #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | Answer questions with “how would you find out?” instead of direct answer.#BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork choice of own compelling question, evaluating information, resources, choosing apps & forms of presentations, etc. #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @BYOTNetwork wkly articles found by students. identify 2 claims. are claims proven. If yes, explain. No? what evid. would need? #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae Maybe this change in paradigm includes the freedom to make mistakes and learn from them! #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | I think implementing BYOT makes tchrs think critically about their strategies& level of rigor as well. Lesson quality improves. #BYOTchat |
| JanetLDee | @BYOTNetwork @MrBrianBobbitt Great list. When given time sts will find the apps that work for them. #Byotchat |
| trescolumnae | RT @JamesDiGioia: Answer questions with “how would you find out?” instead of direct answer.#BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @jdferries @BYOTNetwork Do you ask them to then support or refute those claims? #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @jdferries What grade levels do you have at your school? I would like to see more claim analysis in elementary too! #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork Yes – choice of compelling question is probably most important, since it drives everything else #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @JamesDiGioia started a class w/ “by end of period, have original video embedded in presentation. I’ll be around to reflect. Go.” #Byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork Agree – because the focus isn’t on “being right” anymore. What a terrible burden to ALWAYS have to be “right!” #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Innovation needs to be a key component in our education system. #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @web20classroom @simpleceo Thanks for the shoutout for #BYOTchat! Currently discussing critical thinking via #byot |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u Agree – if and when they REALLY implement BYOT. Some just want online self-grading worksheets  #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @BYOTNetwork i start at the freshman level, but it works effectively as early as 8yo. undivided middle & daughter prime both use #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork true.We can start with simple “why?” I’ve seen kids curiosity and engagement thrive even with this simple approach.#BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | People who think critically consistently attempt to live rationally, reasonably, empathically. http://t.co/JCs3t5le #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries @JamesDiGioia Love it! But I bet a few sts started crying … at least the first time. #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @JamesDiGioia @BYOTNetwork at that level/assignment, just identification & linkage is important. refutation/support = research ppr #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @MrBrianBobbitt Strongly agree with you about importance of innovation. @DrTonyWagner – do you follow #BYOTchat ? |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork Agree! Not to get philosophical, but this is fundamental assumption in education – the need to be right #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork I don’t think we need a long list of tools. Often less is more. It’s all about instruction, its quality and rigor. #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | BYOT + PBL=critical thinking! #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @trescolumnae our mantra for the month: we (education) trained them (parents, students, society) well – they want it easy & fast. #byotchat |
| 40ishoracle | @ZinkEd_u Have discussed prep all week! Freedom of BYOT = student focus on best tool & teacher focus on academic experience #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @JamesDiGioia @trescolumnae And to prove that “rightness” on a standardized test! #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Technology tools can help inspire innovation on current ideas. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @BYOTNetwork Yes – the fundamental 20c assumption: 1) there is A right answer 2) expert has it 3) you don’t … #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @BYOTNetwork And the all important step 4) shut up, listen, take notes, and yes, there WILL be a test #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @trescolumnae the @40ishoracle had to field 3 parent phone calls inside of two days at the beginning of the semester. heh #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @ZinkEd_u I like to provide teachers with choices instead of a standard. Can’t teachers ensure rigor and quality with any tool? #BYOTchat |
| jasteffens | RT @BYOTNetwork: “@MrBrianBobbitt: Here are some resources our students have used. http://t.co/D3oadSHz #byotchat†Great for critical thinking! |
| ZinkEd_u | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork maybe teachers need 2 concentrate more on developing list of compelling questions instead of tools. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries Yes, we did – and we are now reaping a bitter harvest. Hard to get colleagues to see that sometimes #BYOTchat |
| cybraryman1 | My Critical Thinking page: http://t.co/MAWfuBj8 #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae @jamesdigioia Uh-Oh! I think @jdferries could develop a meme about 20c assumptions! #BYOTchat |
| AnganaGhate | @ZinkEd_u yes,no lists BYOT makes tchrs C technologies as ‘toolkits’ used 4 meaningful/relevant lrng-not just presentations. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork Agree! With great compelling questions plus “find a good tool,” sts will take care of the tools themselves #BYOTchat |
| 40ishoracle | @jdferries @trescolumnae Challenge to develop critical thinking in grade based edu system – not an easy A! #BYOTchat |
| thomasson_engl | RT @JamesDiGioia: Answer questions with “how would you find out?” instead of direct answer.#BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries @40ishoracle Wow! But the good news, I guess, is that they did care enough to call #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae @zinked_u But how can students learn to choose among tools if they don’t know what their choices are? #BYOTchat |
| 40ishoracle | @BYOTNetwork Please don’t encourage him #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Student centered approaches like PBL are essential to #byot. If projects aren’t meaningful motivation falls. #byotchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork @zinked_u teachers are trained to takE a tool and use it, not be the evaluator of quality #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork @jamesdigioia @jdferries No doubt we could all do that #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork I really loathe standardized tests. Crush critical thinking. But I digress… #BYOTchat |
| mr_isaacs | RT @MrBrianBobbitt: Student centered approaches like PBL are essential to #byot. If projects aren’t meaningful motivation falls. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @40ishoracle @jdferries Yes – or to construct a “grading system” that deconstructs grading & gives sts power & crit thinking oppty #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae @zinked_u we usually have between 5 – 10 apps to choose from #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | #20cEduAssumes that all complex analysis takes 5 paragraphs #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | RT “@ZinkEd_u: Maybe teachers need 2 concentrate more on developing list of compelling questions instead of tools. #BYOTchat†|
| JoyKirr | @jdferries Student choice n project & design… Sounds like #geniushour http://t.co/zs13SdYc #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork @zinked_u Good point! At the beginning, one might provide a list of possible tools (last option: or something better) #BYOTchat |
| 40ishoracle | @trescolumnae @jdferries And the better news is they cared enough to listen. Class ended up being a “best of the year” #byotchat |
| jdferries | also, the challenge and call to critical thinking has to take place in a context of actual caring about students as individuals #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork @zinked_u A form of scaffolding, which I was just discussing with #langchat friends too #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @BYOTNetwork Not all that fond of them either – esp when tested curriculum becomes the “ceiling”/goal of instruction #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork I think so. Great teachers can teach anywhere any child with any tool. Give them great tools & kids reach the stars. #byotchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Teachers cannot be the only one asking questions either. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @40ishoracle @jdferries Yay! That’s a win-win-win! #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @JoyKirr hear that @40ishoracle? #geniushour — i can go read comics now #byotchat |
| JamesDiGioia | RT @jdferries: #20cEduAssumes that all complex analysis takes 5 paragraphs #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries Absolutely! Sts are so used to being “number not name” – must build trust through real caring #BYOTchat |
| gtchatmod | RT @cybraryman1: My Critical Thinking page: http://t.co/MAWfuBj8 #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | welcome @AnganaGhate to #byotchat I’m glad you made it tonight! |
| jdferries | @trescolumnae @BYOTNetwork we do lists of options for common tasks, demonstrations in #flipclass, and time to play within projects #byotchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | RT @MrBrianBobbitt: Teachers cannot be the only one asking questions either. #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Let students generate a list of tools as well. They can teach too. #byotchat #byot |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork we teach them about choices while on that literacy level. We “build” their wings & let them fly. Doesn’t take long. #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @ZinkEd_u And as you noted, great teachers demand rigor and inquiry. #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | #20cEduAssumes that if you are going to say it, it should be written on the PPT slide #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries @BYOTNetwork Great idea! Love the idea of a common, shared list of options for common tasks #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | RT @jdferries: #20cEduAssumes that if you are going to say it, it should be written on the PPT slide #byotchat No doubt. |
| trescolumnae | RT @jdferries: #20cEduAssumes that if you are going to say it, it should be written on the PPT slide #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae @zinked_u Right! I think scaffolding choices is important – too often teachers don’t provide any real alternatives. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries Yes – every. last. word. In 8-point font. With animations #BYOTchat |
| 40ishoracle | @trescolumnae @jamesdigioia @byotnetwork Argh! Testing as ceiling -hear much of that lately. A pass on test is not an end point! #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @trescolumnae thinking of making it part of the class wiki project next year so that I dont have to be the maintainer #byotchat |
| jdferries | RT @MrBrianBobbitt: Let students generate a list of tools as well. They can teach too. #byotchat #byot |
| ZinkEd_u | @nathan_stevens @BYOTNetwork that’s why I see mind shift among teachers as my priority. Critical thinking begins with teachers. #byotchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @byotnetwork @trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u Provide students a subset of “probable tools” to scaffold? #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @jdferries I think that the community-building in the classroom encourages students pursue new challenges and rigor. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @40ishoracle @jamesdigioia @byotnetwork I really don’t have an issue if tested curriculum is “floor” on which real lrng is built #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @byotnetwork @ZinkEd_u Yes – great idea. Then ask them to add to the list #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @MrBrianBobbitt but they must start before kids learn from their modeling, specially in elementary. #byotchat |
| jdferries | @BYOTNetwork definitely saw it on that final prjct i blogged about. lots of cooperation that was authentic and not tied to grades #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | “@MrBrianBobbitt: RT @jdferries: #20cEduAssumes the more transitions you have in your PPT slides the better your grade will be! #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @40ishoracle @BYOTNetwork Yes, except it never works that way. See: Campbell’s Law http://t.co/HZmtswPf #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | RT @BYOTNetwork: the more transitions you have in your PPT slides the better your grade will be! #BYOTchat Thought it was sound. |
| jdferries | 20cEduAssumes that a spinning picture is worth a thousand critical thoughts. #byotchat #endthetyrannyofbadPPT |
| 40ishoracle | @BYOTNetwork @jdferries Add reflection. Reviewing experiences&recognizing success/failure. In caring environ and win! #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @ZinkEd_u @nathan_stevens I love that idea! “Critical thinking for teachers” However, they are forced into locked-down standards-#BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae because they believe the myth of “kids know more about technology than we”. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @40ishoracle @BYOTNetwork Yes, Campbell’s Law is unfortunately valid. High-stakes measures, etc. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @40ishoracle @BYOTNetwork Wonder if it would be possible to develop (& preserve) low-stakes standardized assessment #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork mobile device apps force the teachers to know about the apps or the device they are using #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @JamesDiGioia love the idea. Very effective in elementary. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork Yes, and then you hear “those bad lazy kids” should know better “b/c they’re digital natives” #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @byotnetwork @ZinkEd_u @nathan_stevens Makes the whole process of BYOT/critical thinking a bit difficult #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @40ishoracle @BYOTNetwork To what ends, though? #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork @MrBrianBobbitt @jdferries and they do! Teachers grade it as “exemplary creativity”! #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @zinked_u @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae The Digital Native is a myth. #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @nathan_stevens Maybe that happens if the teachers require that the students use the same app or mobile device? #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @ZinkEd_u @BYOTNetwork @MrBrianBobbitt haha! December’s Rant: The Creativity blindspot in rubrics: http://t.co/ykRBdgWq #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @zinked_u @BYOTNetwork If any truth to it, Digital Native has to do with MINDSET about tech, not SKILLSET #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork then teachers need to think critically how to integrate them all in a project. Collaboration is essential too! #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @zinked_u @BYOTNetwork But I hear so many teachers complaining about “bad, lazy kids” who “should know how” b/c “DN” #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @trescolumnae LOL! It happens even without BYOT. #BYOTchat |
| 40ishoracle | @JamesDiGioia @trescolumnae @byotnetwork End is beginning policy wonks have numbers & edu moves from baseline not ceiling. #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork we have a standard set of 30 apps on a device for class. Several are of the same type. We let Students decide #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @trescolumnae were using cmmn assessments to compare & discuss among teachers. stds see it as project. low-stakes, high potential #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u Oh, yes it does. Favorite recent complaint from Ms X: “Bad lazy kid” programmed calculator “to do math for her!” #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | RT “@jdferries: The Creativity blindspot in rubrics: http://t.co/ba1zfNEl #byotchat†“‘dazzle’ the teacher with effects” |
| ZinkEd_u | @JamesDiGioia in education it is.Kids know more when it comes to entertainment. They have no idea how to learn with it though. #byotchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Why can’t we let students develop questions for formative assessments? At least some questions. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries Yes – so perhaps key is for control/ownership to be in the hands of tchrs and sts, not external forces #BYOTchat |
| RightQuestion | RT @BYOTNetwork: @BYOTNetwork @zinked_u Teaching students how to ask questions #BYOTchat// see http://t.co/XtBhpubl + http://t.co/INRf2MG3 |
| ZinkEd_u | @trescolumnae totally agree! #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @JamesDiGioia Again, let me say “DN” myth is really about a MINDSET, not a SKILLSET. Will elaborate if you’d like #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @trescolumnae my FETC submission today called “Guiding the #dignatives to become #digcit” …must develop talent, even in tech #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @trescolumnae @jamesdigioia @zinked_u Another excuse for not going BYOT or providing choices – new meme #BYOTexcuses @jdferries #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @MrBrianBobbitt Yes – developing (and improving on) good questions is itself a great formative assessment #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @trescolumnae @zinked_u what about “wow, that stud knows how to prog her calc.” she is taking device knowledge to another level #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @MrBrianBobbitt maybe because teachers will have no answer key to grade them. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u Thanks! I frequently use this analogy: I’m a “car native,” but my grandfather, born 1906, was a more skilled driver #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Just feel like the more we do the less they are responsible for. Let the students learn. Provide opportunities. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @jdferries Love the title! Yes, talent is just the beginning, and skills need to be developed #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | If I spend too much time on BYOT, my students might not score well on standardized tests – #BYOTexcuses #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u Yeah, but teachers conflate the two – assume sts know everything. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @MrBrianBobbitt Gotta have that answer key! Oh, but Ms X was mad the other day. She downloaded a worksheet and … #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @nathan_stevens @trescolumnae @zinked_u I think device knowledge and problem-solving shows critical thinking too! #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @MrBrianBobbitt … those “bad, lazy kids” downloaded the answer key! They were cheating!! (Irony, meet Ms X!) #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork maybe we should amend the test to have a search the Internet for the answer component #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @JamesDiGioia @ZinkEd_u Yes – that’s so common in education. Conflating knowledge with skill with understanding with “smartness” #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @trescolumnae how about you skype with my BYOT team of teachers in August and share your thoughts about DN and BYOT? #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @ZinkEd_u PDreflection: what is the memorized/low-lvl knowledge necessary to memorize in course? why? justify or let them look up. #byotchat |
| 40ishoracle | @BYOTNetwork Especially when the state mandated online test only runs on Windows XP with IE 7 #BYOTchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Umm. The questions could be open-ended as well. #byotchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae @zinked_u more like device knowledge = problem-solving #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @BYOTNetwork @nathan_stevens @zinked_u Completely agree! Choosing a good device or app and problem-solving are def. crit thinking #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @nathan_stevens @BYOTNetwork If standardized tests had something like that, we’d be way closer to making them relevant. #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u Would love to! When in August? #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @40ishoracle @byotnetwork IE really? Almost everything we use breaks on IE #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @nathan_stevens my HTML skills assessment was over two days: encouraged to look up what they didnt know overnight. Its what i do. #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @40ishoracle @BYOTNetwork At least it’s an online test, not scantron! #BYOTchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | Checking in late, trying to read the tweets – great discussion tonight! #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | I want my kids bring devices, but I don’t want to sit in all meetings and learn about it myself. #byotexcuses #byotchat |
| JamesDiGioia | Gross… RT @40ishoracle: @BYOTNetwork Especially when the state mandated online test only runs on Windows XP with IE 7 #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @40ishoracle Oh! This is too close for comfort! You didn’t mention Java version 78? and Adobe Air for text-to-speech! Aargh! #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | @trescolumnae @ZinkEd_u Please record (with their permission). Would love to hear that pitch and Q&A #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @BYOTNetwork @40ishoracle from the same state running iPAD 1:1 seminars; left hand doesnt know the right hand is holding an apple #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @nathan_stevens @BYOTNetwork @trescolumnae yep, “how?” is a sign of critical thinking too. #byotchat |
| 40ishoracle | @BYOTNetwork So you’ve got the same test vendor?Felt bad for the 1:1 iP@d schools who were so encouraged by DOE to “innovate” #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @trescolumnae 1st or 2 week in August? #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @jdferries @40ishoracle Really? Only the folks in technology (and students via BYOT) are permitted to use Apple devices!  #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | “the kids will just spend all day on phone not paying attention (ooh. darn pig)..um what?” #byotexcuses #byotchat |
| nathan_stevens | @40ishoracle @byotnetwork so much for the comment “There’s an app for that.” #byotchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u @nathan_stevens @BYOTNetwork Yes, most definitely. “How?” and also “Why?” and “What if?” and “Why not?” and “Oops!” #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @BYOTNetwork Still have goose bumps thinking of CRCT online training webinars! #BYOTchat |
| Sgaglione | RT @trescolumnae: @ZinkEd_u Would love to! When in August? #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @ZinkEd_u 1st week would probably work. Send me a DM and we can figure out logistics. #BYOTchat |
| 40ishoracle | Nice! @nathan_stevens: @40ishoracle @byotnetwork so much for the comment “There’s an app for that.” #byotchat†|
| nathan_stevens | @trescolumnae @zinked_u @byotnetwork I would also like to add “Yikes” to that list #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @ZinkEd_u Those were some PPT slides that would have benefitted from transitions and animations! #BYOTchat |
| Sgaglione | Oh, can we use the mediascape? RT @trescolumnae: @ZinkEd_u Would love to! When in August? #BYOTchat |
| trescolumnae | @nathan_stevens @zinked_u @byotnetwork Yes, definitely “Yikes!” and some less-printable variations too #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @40ishoracle @nathan_stevens @40ishoracle @byotnetwork LOL! You guys think critically tonight! #BYOTchat |
| edvisions | RT @BYOTNetwork: @nathan_stevens @trescolumnae @zinked_u I think device knowledge and problem-solving shows critical thinking too! #BYOTchat |
| BYOTNetwork | Well, I guess we are saying in #byotchat that standardized tests whether on paper or online do not assess critical thinking! |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork @zinked_u careful that sounds like anti-presentation zen speak #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @nathan_stevens @zinked_u Pictures and sounds would have been nice, too! Now, I’m back to Presentation Zen! #BYOTchat |
| nathan_stevens | @BYOTNetwork they assess critical remembering #byotchat |
| SteveHayes_RB60 | RT @BYOTNetwork: Well, I guess we are saying that standardized tests whether on paper or online do not assess critical thinking! #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | RT @nathan_stevens: @BYOTNetwork they assess critical remembering #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @nathan_stevens @trescolumnae @byotnetwork I want to add my native phrase “и чем Ñ‚Ñ‹ думал?” #BYOTchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @Sgaglione good thinking @Sgaglione we will. #byotchat |
| MrBrianBobbitt | Been a great chat tonight. Thanks for all of the new knowledge. #byotchat |
| 40ishoracle | @BYOTNetwork Didn’t you know? @jdferries turns to dust quicker than vampire in sunlight if he touches Apple product #byotchat |
| JamesDiGioia | lol well-played, sir. RT @nathan_stevens: @BYOTNetwork they assess critical remembering #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | @jdferries @nathan_stevens @BYOTNetwork or should we say remembering critical. #byotchat |
| 40ishoracle | Okay…off to bed. Another day of secondary edu joy with @jdferries in morning. Must get my rest. Good night all! Great chat! #BYOTchat |
| jdferries | @40ishoracle @BYOTNetwork slings & arrows. just remembered who made all those #shinypretty run on the network. #androckedTempleRun #byotchat |
| ZinkEd_u | Great chat tonight. Made me think deeply and critically. Thanks everyone! #byotchat |
| jdferries | @ZinkEd_u or non-critical. the othr part abt crit thinking is the dignatives cant crammorize answers for the duration of the test #byotchat |
| BYOTNetwork | @40ishoracle @jdferries must get pretty frightened in your Tech petting zoos! #BYOTchat |
| JamesDiGioia | Great chat, guys! Archive will be put up tomorrow (hopefully – I’ll admit, I’ve been slacking lately). http://t.co/a0qrVhQB #BYOTchat |
| edvisions | Great discussion! So happy I found this chat! #BYOTchat #21c #edtech |
| trescolumnae | @MrBrianBobbitt Yes, indeed – thanks to all for another outstanding #BYOTchat – hope to see everyone next week, schedules permitting. |
| BYOTNetwork | Thanks for a great #BYOTchat on critical thinking via BYOT! If you have suggestions for future discussions, please tweet them out! |